Thursday, 13 January 2011

James Horak & Angeltorz - Insights from an Outsider - 1 - Dec.02.2010

James Horak and Angeltorz in an online conversation about the EMVs, the Soul, Mind Control, Moral Determination, the NWO, the coming Ice-Age and much more.

27 comments:

  1. Very good video with lots of interesting information, thanks for presenting it. One question and then a comment.

    Can you tell me where I can find on your site or elsewhere a distillation or deeper discussion of the term that James uses of 'Unified Consciousness'?

    In terms of the mind.

    I wonder if mind isn't part of the purposeful process by which an entity fragments or separates its' consciousness from wholeness, to mental, physical and emotional perceptions by which it may experience that separation into the 3D or 5 sensory conditions of planet earth.

    It purposefully handicaps itself so that it may experience a deeper understanding of the creator and learn to transform the 3D context into an integrated component of wholeness.

    Is this transformation the 'Unified Consciousness' that you speak of?

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  2. Unified Consciousness is not, though I've tried to help others acquire it, the product of process or transformation. It is a state of being natural to human beings under conditions in which they evolved. And, in my dealings, shown as a potential in earth humans up until the ages 12-14. Removed from earth and taken to live among other peoples before that age, they are unified.
    Not subject to hypnosis, the "centering" mechanism useful to mind-control, not ambivalent, able to go quickly from steps in mental working without returning to some prior step out of doubt, not unable to concentrate adequately to refine contexts but are able to super concentrate to extents called "genius" in the population. Able to progress order to data and reach such adequate conclusions with their principle of inevitability that they seen as prescient when actually they are capable of utilizing probability to the level of an art.
    Mostly, however, they will be obedient to acquired moral standards to the person and will follow these based on the priority of circumstance, not personal convenience. Capable of sustaining a civilization that provides the means to the individual of a technology capable of having a dark side that remains only a potential, an unexplored one.
    Following this, where each has a power of expectation that makes all abide within contexts and practices that promise to harm no one.
    And always, where both collective and individual ambivalence and its child, duality, is abhorred.
    All this is settled, Michael, before there is a presumption to the spiritual. JCH

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  3. Thanks for posting this. I could listen to James talk about life, conciousness and the universe all day. I seem to be a knowledge sponge when it comes to topics like this. :)
    I've listened to others' theories before but Mr Horak's information just seems to 'click'.

    Cheers,
    Ross.

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  4. (James, thanks for your informative answer and your time to reply to my questions. Have you written any books that can further our understanding of these concepts you represent as I fear that it must be painful for you to read these simplistic inquiries? I hope that you will indulge me again.)

    Unified Consciousness is not, though I've tried to help others acquire it, the product of process or transformation. It is a state of being natural to human beings under conditions in which they evolved. And, in my dealings, shown as a potential in earth humans up until the ages 12-14. Removed from earth and taken to live among other peoples before that age, they are unified.

    (Since the potential exist in all human beings, why does it require the ‘removal from earth’ for unification to occur?)

    Not subject to hypnosis, the "centering" mechanism useful to mind-control, not ambivalent, able to go quickly from steps in mental working without returning to some prior step out of doubt, not unable to concentrate adequately to refine contexts but are able to super concentrate to extents called "genius" in the population. Able to progress order to data and reach such adequate conclusions with their principle of inevitability that they seen as prescient when actually they are capable of utilizing probability to the level of an art.

    (So the level of mental capacity is so acute in unified consciousness, since it is unburdened by the ‘ambivalence’, that a unified consciousness is able to deduce so precisely as to seem prophetic. I’m still not sure I understand you reiteration of ‘the principle of inevitability’, could you elaborate further on this concept?)

    Mostly, however, they will be obedient to acquired moral standards to the person and will follow these based on the priority of circumstance, not personal convenience. Capable of sustaining a civilization that provides the means to the individual of a technology capable of having a dark side that remains only a potential, an unexplored one. Following this, where each has a power of expectation that makes all abide within contexts and practices that promise to harm no one.
    And always, where both collective and individual ambivalence and its child, duality, is abhorred.

    (From what repository would these standards be referenced and then would ambivalence and duality then cease since it is given no power by recognition?)

    All this is settled, Michael, before there is a presumption to the spiritual. JCH

    (So we have a long, long, long way to go. Then considering our current state of affairs on earth how can we ever hope for alignment, enlightenment and understanding?

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  5. Torz Baron-Copley14 January 2011 at 16:29

    Mike, James....

    I would like to ask your permission to post this entire "question and answer" as an actual posting on the blog itself...
    The questions asked are intelligent and open-minded to growth and the replies are in-depth and warrant further broadcast for many....

    With your permission, I await a simply reply...

    My thanks to you both.
    Mike... please stick around we need enquiring minds like yours if we are to understand many things...
    Torz x

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  6. Sure Torz of course you have my permission. (I also apologize for posting twice but something happened that I can't explain... and two post!)

    I also can imagine a thousand others questions that will arise from what James has to say.

    Best to you and thanks

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  7. James...guns in the hands of the public, in the eyes of the military complex and it's most recent technology development for "specific, selective" termination of anything that is formed from a DNA code, your threats have become laughable to them...you might as well fight a mini-gun with a cotton ball! They don't even have to sight a target to take you out!

    IMO, "guns" will be no more than a tool THEY will use against us to create havoc, turmoil, fear and death within the population you are trying to protect.

    If you want real impact in a fight against the elite military complex, I would suggest that you release some technical information to "me", which I can use to develop a weapon that protects us from them.

    The weapon technology recently developed, was demonstrated on a specific "flying" species recently...birds.

    You need to talk to me, let me in on some of the technology you are holding back to protect ET and let me develop a few pieces of hardware we can use against them, which may actually have an impact on them and not at the expense of "us", such as the case for the "gun"...which is all we have right now!

    You know I can build it!

    Mike

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  8. And by what means would I get that to you they wouldn't share? Sound weapons are in that category and are not defeatable but that doesn't solve the real issue.
    Have faith in some amount of human decency being had on the inside. Already organized and ready to surface at the first signs of even ineffectual resistance. ET has three times already saved this planet and shown an ability to intervene.
    And I have stressed the final decision is out of the hands of tptb AND I have shown whose hands it is in.
    More than this is not productive in the erstwhile purpose to determine your fitness to survive...something that should have been addressed far more than it has by now. JCH

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  9. Torz Baron-Copley15 January 2011 at 21:13

    Mike... a very informative reply from you... you have given much away....

    However, I beg to differ with your seeming lack of "faith" with the moral core of human beings when pushed to the very limits of tolerance....

    If we are to prove our "fitness to survive" then surely fighting fire with fire defeats the object ultimately...

    I am well aware that there are many people who are in certain positions, that are tentatively awaiting "their" moment to turn against that which they had no choice but to conform to.....

    Only insane people use unthinkable Weapons...

    I know we have witnessed this just recently, it's unfortunate that "they" have still not realised they are not in charge here....

    Taken a peek at what is happening around the Sun recently.???

    TBC

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  10. James
    I have 1 incredible book on pdf and Its a MUST READ. It is called Earths Forbidden Secrets and has 415 pages. Mind boggling stuff that conflicts with 100% of what we are taught. (Evidence is displayed for the skeptics)
    Have you read this book? If so what do you think?

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  11. FACTION TWO !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Google it !!!

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  12. Yes, I'm looking the book over now and will fully read it tonight. Much of the work is taken from Cremo's Forbidden Archeology, but I'm interested in the way Igan puts it together.
    Yes, It's Faction II I've been discussing and I can refer to a number of incidents indicating they exist. JCH

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  13. (Any credence to this)?Star Gate in Iraq : Is it Real ? or Hoax? Bush Government Covering Something
    Was there a Inter dimensional space port in Iraq in ancient times? I came across this weird story that bush's war against Iraq was to acquire the star gate which is in iraq after searching on the net about this i got few information on it.

    It has been theorized by many credible sources that there are Stargates buried in the sands of Iraq. According to popular beliefs, Iraq was once "The Garden of Eden". Iraq also marks the home of the ancient Sumerians who held strong extraterrestrial beliefs relating to inter dimensional travel and may indeed hold the key to human creation.

    "Is this the sequel to the movie Star gate? Is it a new episode of the TV series? Is it a new Star Trek movie? No, it is none of these. According to Dr. Michael Salla, it is probably exactly what happened!"

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  14. Part 2 Continued

    "Dr. Salla, an Australian national, obtained his M.A. in philosophy from the University of Melbourne and then his doctorate (Ph.D.) in Government from the University of Queensland in 1993. After spending two years as an Associate at the Centre for Middle Eastern and Central Asian Studies in Australia, he joined the faculty of the Department of Political Science at Australian National University in Canberra as a lecturer. In 1996, he came to the U.S. and gained an academic appointment at the School of International Service at American University in Washington, D.C. where he remained until 2001."

    "Dr. Salla's Iraq stargate theory is expounded in a paper written for publication."

    "He believes that the U.S., Russia, Germany and France have been aware that the Anunnaki left behind some very high-tech apparatus, and possibly weaponry, when they abandoned the Earth around 1,700 B.C., and that Saddam Hussein had been getting assistance from Russian, German and French archaeological teams for years in an attempt to unravel, and perhaps reverse-engineer, this apparatus, which Salla claims is probably far in advance of any technology we might have obtained from the Grays from Zeta Reticuli" and which is supposedly warehoused at Area 51 in Nevada.

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  15. There are two ways of travel confused as "stargate" technology. Look into the sun, the craft there are real, yet they are not promoted to the public. Their ramifications are 10 to the fourth power of greater ramification that what you are entertained with as stargates. If it is misleading, it will be promoted. If people are promoted into the public eye it is because they are a distraction from the real. Stars are stargates. Portals are gravity wave attenuators. Those are the real methods of such travel. The Gulf of Aden has a magnetic field anomaly associated with another engine of the type I've discussed. JCH

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  16. I have read the part of your inquiry that can't seem to be able to post and to that I will add, Sitchin's work was widely promoted when he had not been tasked for either his sources or ANY ability in ancient languages. He died when he came under that kind of scrutiny. Planet X is a hoax. A debris field and a condition of matter that the ancients called the aether is responsible for any readings being taken from areas of space credited with its path or the fictitious planet X. JCH

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  17. Thanks James for the clarification.
    Stargates on Earth= Chicken Nuggets and Actual Stars are the Breasts !!!!
    hahahaha
    :)

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  18. Torz Baron-Copley16 January 2011 at 19:55

    I have removed the comment from the spam box James Mark II and placed it in it's contexts with the replies. Also I removed the comment that stated you couldn't reply. Just to keep you informed. I will take a lot of these replies and post them in a separate blog post for others to read as the questions and answers warrant further coverage. Many thanks for all the interesting and intelligent replies people. Please keep them coming.

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  19. Hi, (Mr)James, the first time that I heard you was on KSS, and from that time your "wisdom" makes me thinking way out there. Thank you.

    I would like to know if you have any book published? so that I can learn more.

    Thank you

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  20. I've written articles that are on UFO Digest and you can find references to various forums like UFO Updates I've been on and some in detail in their archives. I've written movie reviews for moviefilmreview.com (has my own approach to interpretive genre and poems on ThePoeticLink.
    I have had my own forum, Anomalog on Topica but until only recently have readers had the access to better see the subjects of my concern like the NASA images showing the EMVs in the sun. No one would read Dr. Bergrun's work to develop the context for what I would have to say, so what would be the point in writing a book when even a scientist could not create the attention the subject matter deserved? JCH

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  21. Sorry, if my question sounded somehow wrong to you(English his not my native language), my interest his genuine and I am more a man of books, hence the inquiry.
    Anyway, thank you very much for the info, I was only aware of your poems, if I can recall well, 2 poems and an interpretation of another that I have read.
    Also I think that given what I´ve listen from you and the importance of the message, you should really consider writing a book even if just to set the records straight.

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  22. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=31100

    Faction II

    :-D

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  23. Well, working up a manuscript may not be as important in the time remaining as being available to confront the NWO's programs as they
    are revealed.

    Yes, it is curious that the Knights Templar are thrown into the mix with Faction Two. It this has a basis in fact it would be more than curious. Not like the many societies that have been co-opted into the service of the elite. JCH

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  24. (The birth of Faction 2)
    Copied from History of the Rothschilds

    1785: The Bavarian government outlaw the Illuminati and close all the Bavarian lodges of the Grand Orient.

    Mayer Amschel Rothschild moves his family home to a five storey house in Frankfurt which he shares with the Schiff family.

    1786: The Bavarian government publish the details of the Illuminati plot in a document entitled, "The Original Writings of The Order and Sect of The Illuminati." They then send this document to all the heads of church and state throughout Europe, but sadly their warning is ignored

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  25. October 28, 2011
    some kind of solar event keeps coming up (i keep seeing things about this) in UNRELATED readings....very strange.....

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  26. "Unrelated" treatments are what the media establishment gives all anomalous phenomena that are regarded as threatening to explore more thoroughly. JCH

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  27. JACKI IN FLORIDA
    THANKS FOR POSTING CONVERSATIONS, TORZ. COMMENTS PLEASE KEEP COMING FOR OUR EDIFICATION, THE RIGHT QUESTION CAN OPEN A FLOOD GATE. JAMES, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME HERE WITH ANSWERS TO COMMENTS AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO FURTHER INFO. TIME IS INDEED SHORT.. SHALL WE LEARN MORE FROM OUR DREAMS TOO? THANKS.
    WAITING........

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